• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    He did also kill a lot of people wearing suits but that hardly means much in Japan. They don’t talk much about his hundreds of victims in general other than calling them criminals.

    Also, it’s the Death Note not the Tax The Rich and Redistribute Wealth Note.

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    He’s not white, but other than that, I thought these points were obvious. You’re not supposed to like him.

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      He’s not white, but he is the equivalent. Also a son of a cop, and Japan still also has very racist and colorist views. In comparison it works.

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        i think the creator of this meme (not me if that wasn’t obvious) made a mistake in that it was actually L who was coded to be white:

        When asked about L’s ethnicity, creator of the series Tsugumi Ohba responded, “I think of him as a quarter Japanese, a quarter English, a quarter Russian, a quarter French or Italian, like that.” fandom

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      who said they weren’t obvious? it’s called framing. applying a political lense to a fictional character’s traits and coming to a conclusion within the political framework.

      literally no one is saying these observations haven’t been picked up on or that the character is meant to be liked.

      no hate to you individally but, as a pattern, these anti-intellectual comments do make me sad. it’s like picking up simone de beauvoir and saying “duh i already knew women were historically oppressed.” the point isn’t already knowing. it’s about intellectual growth from the process of analysis, the meaning generated from the uniquely human application of knowledge. :)

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          7 hours ago

          i think you have an unrealistically restrictive definition of meme for some reason haha

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            Me.

            I’m too old, I don’t get all the memes. The culture is different now and my definition of it was shaped by my experiences not well, what a meme really technically is. Or is for other people.

            Eta: plz help me understand the youths

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        That’s fair. I do get annoyed at other comments like “if you didn’t figure out how to resolve the Paradox of Tolerance the first time you saw it, you’re fascist”. It doesn’t leave room for people to grow.

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    11 hours ago

    He has been an unlikeable prick from the very beginning. And it only got worse.

    Tap for spoiler

    I cheered when he lost his marbles before he died. For some reason I remember that he pissed himself.

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    I don’t think he was ever supposed to be considered a role model. Sort of like Tyler from Fight Club.

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        no literally every protagonist is the good guy thats what protagonist means.

        Except that’s not what protagonist means. The main character is the protagonist and their opposition is the antagonist, regardless of alignment.

        Edit from wiki: The term protagonist comes from Ancient Greek πρωταγωνιστής (prōtagōnistḗs) ‘actor who plays the chief or first part’, combined of πρῶτος (prôtos, ‘first’) and ἀγωνιστής (agōnistḗs, ‘actor, competitor’), which stems from ἀγών (agṓn, ‘contest’) via ἀγωνίζομαι (agōnízomai, ‘I contend for a prize’).

        Double edit: I completely missed the sarcasm my bad

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      Tyler durden, Walter white, Rorschach, homelander, Travis bickle, Rick, Saul Goodman, Eren Yeager - people tend to idolize the most toxic characters. Serial killers get fan mail aplenty. Particularly weird when the character is a child, but I’m no longer surprised at what people are capable of pointing their admiration toward.