• UnPassive@lemmy.world
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    Had the exact same conversation with my super Christian mom. In front of some siblings. It was amazing.

    She was arguing that we need to stop normalizing LGBT stuff because anyone can swing both ways.

    I told her straight people can’t swing both ways, if you can then you’re bisexual. She did not like this, so we all took a poll and she was the only bi person in the room.

    She’s less homophobic now lol

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      I think that’s what happens a lot of time, and why there is a tiny truth to them saying things like “pride makes the kids gay”. It does not, but it might teach some bi sexuals that it’s okay to be just that, and not force yourself to forget about the other half.

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    Actual conversation I had regarding my sexuality:

    Femal Aquaintance- “You can’t be bi, you’re married! Wait…do you cheat on -=wife=-?!?”

    Me - “Of course I can, and no I don’t cheat.”

    Female Aquaintance - “But you’re married! Doesn’t -=wife=- have a problem with it?”

    Me - “No. She’s bi too.”

    Female Aquaintance -“But she’s married!!!”

    Two weeks later she got drunk and wanted a threesome, then got annoyed that we turned her down. I have no idea why people immediately assume that bi means “will fuck anyone that asks”.

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      Online dating as a bi woman is grim. It’s annoying, because in certain contexts, I’d be up for casually fooling around with a couple, but when you think you’re going on a date with a woman and then her surprise boyfriend shows up, it’s gross and predatory

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      My mom met a non-binary friend of mine and their girlfriend. My NB friend comes across as a masculine muscular bro dude but their NB and pan. I mentioned to my mom later that they were NB and she was like “but he has a girlfriend…?” I had to walk her through “you’ve heard of men being attracted to women, and women being attracted to women. Well Zack is neither and is attracted to women.” In her mind, gender and sexuality were like, part of the same thing. Which I guess they are but not the way she thought.

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        I had to teach the difference between the two to my therapist the first time I talked about being trans.

        The upside to that whole thing being that they ended up using my knowledge as a launching point to learn what the latest research has to say about gender, sexuality, and trans people, and then several years later thanked me because my conversations on the subject with them went on to help them with other patients that they had.

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            I don’t have it in me. I can speak on stuff like being trans or bi from a place of personal experience and needing to learn about that stuff for reasons like to be able to medically advocate for myself to get proper care and treatment, but I don’t have the public speaking skills or ability to articulate my point well enough for a profession like therapy.

            I did enjoy being in a quasi-managerial role though, where it was informal enough that I got to encourage the kids I worked with to do what they were passionate about or teach them about stuff I knew and push them to try new things that they might have never considered before. Talking to high school and college kids who were passionate about different things and getting to hear them info dump about their interests was fun.

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        Gender and sexuality have been a blur for a long time. It’s not long ago that transgenderism was considered a sexuality

    • Nat (she/they)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Straight men are attracted to more than one women and therefore they’re attracted to people who aren’t their wife, so they must be cheating!

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      It really opens up the world of bored white middle class couple threesomes, though. They always pay for drinks and give fantastic Christmas gifts.

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    Sexuality is a spectrum. Straight/Gay doesn’t mean no attraction to a particular sex, just that the attraction isn’t significant. Not sure why he would think you need to have sex with both to qualify though.

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    Straight facts:

    I am a straight man. Hello everyone. I hope you’re all having a wonderful day.

    Also a fact, I support all peoples choices in terms of what they like and how they identify. Not sure why I would care if someone else wants to be gay, bi, trans, hereto/cis, queer, lesbian, etc. I’m not those things, I’m not sure why it would bother anyone that someone else likes things? Whatever.

    Also a fact from a straight guy, aka, straight fact.

    While I can recognise that some masculine figures are handsome/good looking, I do not… And I can’t stress this enough… I do not feel any attraction to men.

    They can be rather good looking, but that doesn’t make me want to get them naked and fool around.

    If you have excitement in your pants for someone of the same gender, well… I have news for you… And there’s nothing wrong with that.

    Be who you are. Anybody who gives a shit is probably not worth knowing.

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      A term that I find useful is “platonic aesthetic attraction”.

      It’s a term that I learned through the ace community when I was going through the common bisexual experience of “am I bi though, or am I just asexual?”. It turned out I was bi, but I find the split model of attraction is a useful framework.

      Platonic Aesthetic attraction is when you’re able to see someone and go “now that is a beautiful man”, but not experience any attraction in the conventional sense of the word. I personally find it useful because even though I do experience sexual or romantic attraction to people of all genders, that doesn’t mean I experience that for everyone. Sometimes a beautiful person is just a beautiful person.


      Edit: got mixed up, and said “Platonic attraction” when I meant “aesthetic attraction”. Thanks to @gerryflap@feddit.nl for the correction

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        What you’re describing is aesthetic attraction I think. Platonic attraction is more like advanced friendship afaik, more based on personality.

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          I like the term aesthetic attraction. That’s useful.

          There are plenty of women I find aesthetically attractive, and some that I find attractive in the hormone surge kind of way, but only rarely do they hold appeal for me as a potential partner, and personality plays a massive role there.

          I can tell that some men are aesthetically handsome, but without the hormone rush.

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        This reminds me a lot of love. People can’t, or don’t, by default, differentiate different forms of love, though, there are many.

        If you express love for anyone that isn’t blood related, the implication is that you want to copulate with them, and often, that’s far from the truth.

        I love a lot of people, but not in that way. Right now, the only person I love who I want to copulate with is my partner. At the same time, I have a large group of friends that I also love, as a kind of trust and friendship love, though they’re not related to me through blood, in any way, shape, or form (Besides us both being human, I guess).

        Commoners in society are extremely reductive, so the nuances of such things often escape them.

        You can like, love or even find something attractive, and that doesn’t define you. You define yourself. That’s the privilege of sapience. We can decide such things about ourselves.

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        I’ve always heard platonic attraction as a strong desire to form a deep platonic connection with a specific person. It’s wanting to be close with a person and form a deep bond, but no sexual or physical connection.

        I think you’re just describing finding a person attractive vs being attracted to a person. I haven’t heard a term for it before.

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      For me it’s not even that. I have zero clue about men being good lucking or not except for those who look similar to someone that has been described to me as good lucking or not.

      With women I have “some” clue in general and then there’s also some women that I personally find very attractive and others don’t. But even the most beautiful women don’t really give me any desire to do anything sexual with them unless they (or myself) first do something to make me think of it - so I might be closer to ace than actually straight.

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        i mean for me the sexiest feature is personality. no matter how fast you want to go, that generally reveals slower than say, flashing a titty.

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          Then again, taking your top off in public does reveal a lot about your personality.

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      Meh, you’re a little gay. ‘Attractive’ has no objective meaning, some just are to you. You’re just not gay enough to fuck. A little gay and a little straight is called bi. But really it’s just a spectrum and it can change over time. What’s important to you, and lots of people, is how you identify. And you’re correct that doesn’t and shouldn’t matter because it has no affect on other’s lives. Now…let the hate for my opinion flow

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        I like your opinion. You can consider me to be bi if you want.

        I don’t identify that way and I’m not so insecure that someone having a different opinion about me, bothers me in the slightest. You do you, my friend.

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          I really appreciate your response, I strive to be that chill especially on these topics that are so knee jerk for me! I wasn’t trying to label anyone only to put the words in their place which are as tools of description not prescription. I see I caught you in there when I could have used a hypothetical. My apologies

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            I am unbothered my friend.

            I appreciate you taking the time to recognise the fault in the statement. That’s more maturity and self awareness than a lot of people have.

            Keep that up.

            Cheers.

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    A self-own on par with loudly proclaiming women never get wet when aroused because it never happened to any women you’ve ever been with.

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    You can have sex with the same sex without being gay. Look at the porno industry for example. It’s all about attraction when it comes to sexual orientation.

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    And then the goalposts move to “Oh you have had sex with men and women? Well you’re dating a woman now so clearly it was just a phase you’re not actually bi”

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    Just tell them “Oh, you think the bi means two so you have to be with two people. Common misunderstanding.”