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  • The logic of those denominations is not everyone chooses to follow Christ’s path. Christ’s death is seen as forgiving original sin not forgiving all of your sins. Roman Catholicism believes you have to be a good person and do good things for people to enter heaven. You don’t get in by default as then there would be no reason not to be bad.






  • You didn’t start off talking this way. You shifted to it when I challenged you in ways you normally aren’t for example by pointing out the many ways in which China has abandoned leftist ideal by supporting an investor class and exploiting the working classes to enrich the elites. You don’t have a built in reply because you’re used to arguing talking points not having to actually think.

    You seemed to actually be capable of thinking so it is sad that you made this choice.




  • No the metrics for freedom aren’t invented by economists but are determined by political scientists. I think you’re demonstrating a common failure in Leftists who are self educated in leftism in that ypu have reactionary responses to situations you aren’t informed on.

    What metric are you taking issue with? Self determination is always the biggest one and Chinese citizens do not have this. If the masses wanted to pursue Communism harder and Xi did not (and he does not) they don’t have this option. Not being able to decide the direction of your nation is a significant sign of oppression.

    You do not have equivalent rights under the law as gay people because you cannot marry and domestic partner rights are less than married. There is no path to LGB+ marriage. I’m just not as equal in China.

    Do we need to address freedom of speech? You have more in most nations than in China.

    Look at that 3 major freedoms none of which are economic and all of which China is just bad at. You started everything repeatedly suggesting I bought into propaganda and Im hoping you see how much propaganda you are accepting uncritically here.


  • I don’t know what country you live in but we clearly do not reside in the same nation or state of mind if you believe what you claim.

    Regardless Im not here to defend America. China being substantially less free by every metric than many other nations is an easily verified fact.

    Ypu don’t have to be authoritarian to meet people’s basic needs. China chooses authoritarianism because it benefits their investor class nit because it benefits the working class.

    I don’t understand why anyone claiming to support liberty or freedom would back China. That’s like joining the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s dept because you want to fight back against gangs.






  • You’re familiar with these claims but do ypu understand what they mean? I don’t think ypu have a clue.

    You can compare the rights people have. China is going to be near the bottom of any logical assessment of rights as Chinese people do not have the rightsto free speech, the right to free expression, the right to determine the direction of the Chinese state who h ultimately means there is no freedom.

    Im not defending America. Im rejecting the objectively flawed claim that they are as free as other nations when they are not. You currently have greater rights in Norway than you do in China. Hopefully you can see the difference.

    Finally if ypu cannot defend capitalism here why are you defending China a nation wth a stock market and investor class? What economic theory are they pursuing when for-profit banks are investing in foreign companies and not ceding control to the workers? China is a capitalist nation wearing the skin of a socialist nation much like America currently wears the skin of a capitalist democracy.


  • Nope less free across the board. China is a repressive state when it comes to rights. This isn’t an opinion it is a fact. There are countries freer than the USA but the overwhelming majority of nations are freer than China.

    Have you ever studied any political philosophy in a formal setting? Im suspecting you have not since you seem to not understand what constitutes “freedom” in this context.

    In China you can’t suggest they stop having their current government. That’s a HUGE problem if you are trying to argue how free a society us as it means the masses have no say in their future.