They really didn’t have to redesign a text box. Please stop reinventing the wheel. I don’t need another pop up in my life.
It’s impressive how modern companies with thousands of professional designers manage to make increasingly goofy designs lol
“Modern” (i.e. Apple-chasing) design seems to be hellbent on wasting as much screen space as possible.
Apples actually generally pretty good at not wasting much screen space.
To prove yourself as a executive you have to make the company do stuff, so people come up with reasons to do wasteful things. It’s all a circle of shit people being shitty to get ahead.
Okay, so I’m not crazy. I started seeing this today, and I had to stop and think “Wait, was this always here?”
Lmao same.
bloody annoying and ugly
Until I saw this post I thought my phone was just being buggy.
I thought this was just me but I swear this is so fucking annoying
Completely unnecessary filler space
Lol I’m glad other people are talking about it because same… I updated it and noticed immediately and thought it felt/looked a little odd. Here’s to hoping they listen to feedback if enough is provided! I’ve enjoyed the app, otherwise, for the RCS and what not.
Does anyone else feel like the quality of the keyboard swipe auto-complete has completely tanked as well?
Just like their search engine, every version of Android gets worse.
I don’t know how to edit the main post on mobile so I’ll just add this comment. The message I typed in the screenshot populates in a “pop up bar”. The message no longer gets entered where you think it should go and it looks like shit and takes up extra screen space for no reason. I really dislike this change.
They fixed it. It’s back to normal now.
Fuckin annoying tbh. Can’t stand when giga corps do this and sense it’s required for rcs I can’t just go get a better foss alternative sense none of the people I text are tech savvy or able/willing to switch to something else and rcs is pretty essential for me knowing if someone read it or not.
If I could I would ditch all google and giga corps products but I’m way to poor to do that. And it’s so ingrained into society it’s hard to find anything that works with these proprietary shit.
I don’t understand how is it essential to know if someone read your message. Shouldn’t they reply to you if they need to let you know?
Read confirmation is the first feature I disable on every instant messaging platform. Also delivery confirmation is implemented in standard SMS.
Mainly because some of the people I know read it and don’t respond, for instance my partner coming home from work and me needing something at the store and she’s driving and can’t respond but pops up on her messages so she knows but can’t respond. It’s really helpful knowing they read it then me not sure wtf is going on.
Just a scenario riddled with probably lots of flaws but hopefully you get the point.
If she is driving she cannot click on the message or on “mark message as read” either.
Legally.
Some car features allow you to connect your phone and you can have a message read aloud to you through voice command.
These cars would support Speech-To-Text too though, wouldn’t they
It’s not just read receipts. It’s reactions, replies, and immensely better image quality.
The comment I replied to listed read confirmation as the only essential feature to them, that forbids them to drop Google Messages.
My brain omitted that context for some reason, fair enough.
Linux is free ig
Linux on mobile is no good, and the devices it does run on do not support the proper bands and modes for usable coverage, if the carriers even allow the devices on their networks. (A more US problem all around.)
Pinephone pro had awesome cell coverage. Better than my pixel 4 xl even. Now battery life is a totally different story. I’d last I tried was pretty awful too as phosh wasn’t amazing and plasma mobile would kill itself often. It’s been at least a year since I last used any of it though since I left it 5 states away.
Bear in mind, the signal “bars” are a relative measurement, the only way to be sure is to look at radio debug and see signal strength across all bands the phone is connected to at the time.
According to the FCC SAR report: https://files.pine64.org/doc/cert/PinePhonePro SAR Evaluation Report-S21101902806001.pdf it only supports LTE bands 2,4,5,12,13,41 in the US, which overall isn’t terrible.
However, that leaves out 14,25(superset of 2),26,29,30,46,48,66(superset of 4),71.
14 and 71 are necessary on AT&T or T-Mobile respectively for low band coverage in some markets where they don’t own band 12 spectrum, the others are more capacity bands on the various carriers, but with the shift to 5G, they’re more important on a phone that doesn’t support 5G like Pinephone Pro.
dude, i was talking about desktop linux
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It’s free as in money, but certainly not in time spent.
linux mint exists btw
My comment still applies, unless you just use some basic software and a browser, it takes more time investment to get things working and maintain it.
the og comment is from a self clamed ‘tech savvy person’
I paid for Textra over a decade ago, and it’s easily the best money I’ve ever spent. It’s the best texting app I’ve ever used and I highly recommend everyone check it out. They still churn out updates regularly and the features are above and beyond most messaging apps.
The text lines up with the recipient’s text bubbles. It’s on the left, and it’s left justified, so it’s under the other person’s messages, rather than mine.
I could have sworn the old UI had the text entry closer to the right.
I hate this new layout. Why is the box smaller than the width of the screen? It was already too small. If anything they should have made it taller and kept it the same width it was before
Can Textra handle RCS yet? I bought it ages ago but ditched it when it couldn’t handle RCS
I’ve been reading articles for years about how Google say they’re going to open the RCS API to 3rd-Party apps but they have yet to do so.
This is why I scoff every time Google takes jabs at Apple about iMessage. Pot, meet kettle. Until I can use rcs with Textra, they got no room to talk
They’re proobably working on how to track messages on the way, like “hey, wanna use RCS? here’s our com.google.rcs library”, which by coincidence sends every message to Google.
Your cynicism is warranted but a big part of the advertised value is that their rcs implementation is end to end encrypted. Or they say it is, which presumably someone (not me!) would be able to verify.
Nothing can without the blessing of Google, and so far that’s limited to Google Messages and Samsung Messages (whatever it’s called)
Great standard you got there. Fucking hell
I’m not a fan either. I will swap to literally any FOSS texting app that supports RCS.
Is there any foss messaging app that support RCS though?
not yet
Not ever, unless Google is forced to open it up.
source?
Source: Google is not using standard RCS.
It’s so bad I uninstalled all updates and went back to the version that shipped with the phone. That got rid of it.
I tried to install other versions from apkmirror but the design has been in there a while and they turned it on server side. My P8 shipped with
messages.android _20230529_03_RCO1
and it’s gone for me.
Weird. My version is from 2 weeks ago and I don’t see it.
Verizon US Pixel 8 🤷🏻
I will just drop this here:
Please dont let Google also scan your Messages?
How do I turn this off? Google search results are of no help 🤔
Use a regular SMS app
Like this one: https://github.com/FossifyOrg/Messages
I also like Deku SMS, its basically like “Silence” which implemented the Signal Protocol for SMS, but silence is unmaintained.
Both partners need to use the app to use encryption, but SMS are often accessible when cell data is used up or in areas with nearly no coverage.
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RCS is a very incomplete protocol, so the only good implementations are partly proprietary. Also it relies on centralized infrastructure afaik, and weird bureaucratical agreements with carriers.
No, and it seems pretty unlikely.
I love textra. I wish I could just get everyone on signal though
I think the only downside to Textra is that it doesn’t support RCS - or I don’t believe it does. They have a newer app called Chomp SMS that does. I’m still using Textra because the only communication I get on it is from companies.
Do you have information on it supporting rcs? I don’t see anything on the play store mentioning it. The first Google results I see say it doesn’t. Seems like it would be a big deal because if they did and would be prominently displayed as I thought only Google messages and Samsung messages supported rcs.
https://chomp.uservoice.com/knowledgebase/articles/1895488-rcs-implementation
I think I’m mistaken. I have no idea where I got it from but I must have seen something to give me the illusion. Ignore what I said.
I had no idea they had another texting app. I’ll have to check it out and compare
Maybe they reserve that space for future AI suggestions?
Almost certainly the answer. Same reason they just hobbled their “ok Google” by not letting you access it with the screen off anymore. They’re going to switch engines and they want to reintroduce the same features all over again but make it feel like an upgrade.
“We can’t remember what happened last quarter, so surely our users won’t remember how their phones used to be better! Genius! Moving on, time to go make and destroy a new app, how about a notepad app this time?” --Google
On the new pixels, as you start typing you get some AI tools that will rewrite your message, make suggestions, etc
Pixel 7 Pro here, haven’t seen this at all, it’s just dead space for me.
The 7 isn’t new anymore. That person meant the 8
Pixel 8 pro here. I haven’t seen it either.
A tragedy. I hate that little useless space. Those features should be on Gboard not messages
