• m-p{3}@lemmy.caEnglish
    1141·
    9 个月前

    And it’s easy to share your server with friends and relatives so that they don’t have to go through the same process to watch these shows.

    I was sharing my Netflix account with my mom and dad, now that I can’t without paying more, I just pulled the plug on that subscription and add the shows they want to my server.

    • Dagnet@lemmy.worldEnglish
      271·
      9 个月前

      What is the easy way to share jellyfin over the internet? Portforwarding doesn’t work for me cause I don’t have a static ip address

      EDIT: I thank all the answers but none of them seem actually easy

      • m-p{3}@lemmy.caEnglish
        13·
        9 个月前

        I just use a free dynamic DNS provider (ie: DuckDNS), and most home routers are able to publish IP address changes to that DNS, otherwise you just need a small software to publish those change, which you can do ok the server hosting Jellyfin.

        • Dagnet@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          9 个月前

          Someone already suggested that but it seems to be missing a step, still need something to direct to the port I have for jellyfin?

        • CalicoJack@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          7·
          9 个月前

          You don’t even need to purchase a domain, free dynDNS services (DuckDNS or similar) are good enough for Jellyfin and the like.

          • BaroqueInMind@lemmy.oneEnglish
            151·
            9 个月前

            Free services always have some kind of dubious hidden product they are selling elsewhere about you to someone else, because network hardware is not free, network system maintenance is not free, internet access is not free. Facebook is free, yet we all know what it’s true cost is.

            • NotSteve_@lemmy.caEnglish
              3·
              9 个月前

              DuckDNS is run by two guys who are funded by donations. I do agree with what you’re saying about free services but I’m more willing to trust DuckDNS in this case

      • nickiam2@aussie.zoneEnglish
        121·
        9 个月前

        The easiest way is to setup tailscale on the server, then share the server with the web interface. Your friends/family simply install the tailscale client, login, and it just connects like magic. No port forwarding or firewall configuration required. There’s plenty of how-tos out there.

        tailscale.com

      • gears@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        61·
        9 个月前

        I wouldn’t bother with a paid dynamic DNS. Most domain registrars let you change your DNS record with an API call (I know GoDaddy does because I use them.)

        Then you just set up a cron job to fetch your IP and then change your DNS record to match. I use a subdomain because my main domain hosts a blog and some other stuff on a VPS, while my jellyfin server is at home.

        A good search would be “[registrar name] dynamic DNS script”

      • mhz@lemm.eeEnglish
        31·
        9 个月前

        Ddns is your answer, check your router and see what it can support or just go with whatever you feel good for you and install their updater on your server.

      • MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        9 个月前

        Run a VPS as a VPN server with ports forwarded. Run a VPN client on your router to forward Internet facing traffic from Jellyfin to said VPN tunnel. Essentially, open ports on the VPS instead of your own router. This is conceptually similar to Cloudflare tunnels.

      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        9 个月前

        Doesnt matter if you have dynamic or static.
        But it will matter once CG-NAT comes into play.

        Sincerely a dynamic IP jellyfin user with a reverse proxy.

      • nolight@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        9 个月前

        I’ve set up a cloudflare tunnel, all you need is a domain. It forwards my local Jellyfin instance to the public web, and is easy to get started with. I’m not sure how secure it is though, so I would appreciate any advice from more enlightened pirates.

    • deweydecibel@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      9 个月前

      Is there an easy, free method of doing this securely and privately (as in masked from the ISP) in a way that doesn’t involve me having to manage the network of the person I’m sharing with?

      For example, I can use Tailscale for free, but then I have to make sure my friends know how to use that, and that’s a tall order. Not to mention the fact it won’t work on things like Roku.

      • evranch@lemmy.caEnglish
        4·
        9 个月前

        VPN and have them punch in to a cheap or free cloud instance that acts as a hub router.

        You give them a config file and they feed it to their device or router, use a private subnet in the 10.0.0.0/8 range because everyone is on 192.168.1.0/24 and then they just hit it at 10.0.0.1 or whatever.

        I like Wireguard but you might have to use something with layer 2 support if you want service discovery to work for true zero config.

        • deweydecibel@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          9 个月前

          All good stuff, but I should clarify, the friends and family in question are not tech literate people. They call the internet “the wifi”, get the shitty gateway from Spectrum and plug it in.

          Assuming I can apply any sort of configuration to that device in the first place, the second something breaks, either I’m getting a call, or they’ll call Spectrum and their rep will reset the gateway to defaults.

          I’d also be hesitant to employ a VPN to cloud solution, because I have no idea what that’s going to do to the speed.

          Basically I was just asking if there was a free method of doing this securely and discreetly where the only thing they ever have to do is put an IP address into Jellyfin. I’m perfectly aware there may not be, I was just curious if there was a method I hadn’t heard of.

          Something I’ve kind of thought about is maybe, at least for my parents and closest friend, buying a cheap local machine (or repurposing an old OptiPlex or something) for them to keep in the house that I would mirror my library to, or least be able to manage remotely. “Sure, mom, you wanna see this? I’ll tell your box to fetch it.”

        • deweydecibel@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          9 个月前

          Ok cool, didn’t realize they’d added this.

          If they can find a solution for Android not being able to run Tailscale and a different VPN at the same time, I’d finally be able to commit to it fully.

      • whatwhatwutyut@midwest.socialEnglish
        1·
        9 个月前

        It isn’t free, but I use a seedbox for running my Plex server. That way none of the media downloading is done on our local internet, all the ISP should see is that we are streaming data from a Plex server. They’d have no knowledge on if we own that data or not. I’m sure Jellyfin can also easily be run from a seedbox

        Having a seedbox is also helpful because our internet has a pretty low upload speed, which would make watching anything outside the house a massive pain.

  • Ramenator@lemmy.worldEnglish
    681·
    9 个月前

    It gets even worse when a number of anime aren’t even licensed for your country so you can only stream them via VPN. Looking at you Crunchyroll

        • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          8·
          9 个月前

          Unbelievable.

          Reminds me a bit about how Weird Al was able to get a whole album worth of music videos funded by spreading them out across various platforms.

          But that was clever and creative. This is just goofy.

          • deweydecibel@lemmy.worldEnglish
            31·
            9 个月前

            It’s more the result of there not being much demand for the entire 20 year run of Pokemon, so they didn’t bother keeping them packaged together. Otherwise they’d have priced it accordingly, and the services may not have wanted it at that price.

            It’s like how classic Doctor Who and current Doctor Who weren’t packaged together: the demand for one was diff than the other, so it made sense to let streaming services only pay for the one their customers wanted most.

      • Billegh@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        9 个月前

        A huge part of that is season 1 of FLCL is two decades and entire production companies apart. It’s likely entirely down to a matter of how difficult it is to get rights for anime. Cartoon network was involved in the two new HD seasons, and is much easier to deal with that Gainax.

        • fidodo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          9 个月前

          It’s a completely piece of shit. I’ve never seen so many bugs in a streaming app

          • Neshura@bookwormstory.socialEnglish
            21·
            9 个月前

            It’s what happens when the devs have to spend more time making sure the DRM works than actually improving the UX of the platform. Pirates/Non-DRM users don’t have that problem hence small FOSS projects can outclass big Streaming Services in UX quality.

      • machinaeZER0@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        9 个月前

        TIL there’s more than one season of FLCL - loved that show back in the day. Is the new stuff good?

        • zalgotext@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          1·
          9 个月前

          I’ve only seen the first season lol. Planning on starting the second tonight. Apparently there’s a 4th and 5th season as well that I’m just learning about, so 2 and 3 must have gone well!

  • adONis@lemmy.worldEnglish
    633·
    9 个月前

    Ooooh…wait… by streaming you mean netflix, etc…

    Can we please invent a word for streaming pirated content?

  • Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.worldEnglish
    525·
    9 个月前

    I just go to 9anime, whoever runs that site is a golden god. They got all the anime, a shit ton of manga and it’s all free.

    • saltynuts420@lemm.eeEnglish
      311·
      9 个月前

      I got like 100 sites like 9 anime … They all source their anime and manga from like 5-6 sources … I have so many cos I like trying out new UIs and many of them are quite creative with their website design (I use UBO so no ads or popups tho)

      • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
        10·
        9 个月前

        Give it a try.

        I was a Plex early adopter. Left Plex for Jellyfin when the Jellyfin project was barely a year old because it was clear where Plex was heading. (Emby was another option then, but they made some decisions I couldn’t abide so I skipped right over them)

        0 regrets, and even my non-technical spouse and two children have no problem with it.

        Everyone’s got their opinions, but the one guy slagging off Jellyfin below sounds like he’s never actually used it.

      • emergencybird@lemmy.worldEnglish
        71·
        9 个月前

        I setup jellyfin plus the arr stack on an rpi4 and man has that little thing changed my life, all the content I could ever want just for the cost of a Usenet provider. Hope you enjoy man!

        • Fishbone@lemmy.worldEnglish
          21·
          9 个月前

          How’s the rpi4 as a media server? I wanted to do that too, but i looked into it when the 3B was new and the general consensus was that it wasn’t really ideal.

          As an aside, raspberry pi’s are so cool. My rpi3b running retropie/ emulation station turned out so great, and it runs way more games than I expected.

      • MaggiWuerze@feddit.deEnglish
        96·
        9 个月前

        realized Plex seems to have completely moved away from being a media server program

        It is still a great media server no mater what the Jellyfin fanclub says. Jellyfin is great, but from a user experience perspective it’s just not in the same league as something as polished as Plex and if your userbase is not just IT workers and FOSS enthusiasts (or you enjoy a good looking and working UI) Plex is the place to go.

        • Fishbone@lemmy.worldEnglish
          52·
          9 个月前

          First and foremost, I don’t know or particularly care about fanclub opinions as a whole. Not trying to be rude or anything, but it’s weird to tell me that A is great despite what B fans tell me when I never even heard a word from B fans to begin with.

          I’ve looked briefly into plex recently, which seems bloated with services and monetization that I don’t want or care about (even the help articles are written like ads), and I’ve looked at the 3 websites for Jellyfin that I linked, and Jellyfin seems like a more clear cut and feature rich version of what plex started out as, which was primarily a media server program.

        • NotSteve_@lemmy.caEnglish
          3·
          9 个月前

          I have a large amount of users on my Jellyfin instance including people who are more tech illiterate and nobody has had any issues. The setup of Jellyfin is probably more complicated than Plex (just guessing, I haven’t tried it) but besides that, the UI is very user friendly

        • Radical Dog@lemmy.worldEnglish
          53·
          9 个月前

          I’ve only used Jellyfin, but I struggle to imagine Plex being much easier - it was a piece of piss to just run the installer and point at my folders. Complexity only comes when doing stuff like making it available over the internet.

          • MaggiWuerze@feddit.deEnglish
            62·
            9 个月前

            Or if you want to use hardware encoding. Which Plex manages to setup by itself as long as you have a device capable of it. Jellyfin Hardware encoding for me has been so much tinkering with so little success and even then it only worked for a short while or only a small subset of my library.

            • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
              61·
              9 个月前

              HW Accel took me 5 min of reading the docs one time several years ago (when I first did the setup several upgrades ago), and has not been an issue since.

              You are making some statements about how rough Jellyfin is, you should remember the bolded words from the quote below more often.

              Jellyfin Hardware encoding for me has been so much tinkering with so little success and even then it only worked for a short while or only a small subset of my library.

              You seem happy with Plex, and that’s just fine, but all the experiences you’ve related here about Jellyfin are different than mine, and different than what I typically hear from anyone else who runs Jellyfin in recent years. I was a Plex early-adopter who left Plex for Jellfyin when Jellyfin was barely a year old, and really was still rough around the edges. I still had less trouble then than you are portraying.

              My non-techie wife, my teenaged son, and my youngest son with special needs all use it without issue across multiple devices.

              I guess I’m in the “Jellyfin fanclub.”

            • whats_all_this_then@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              9 个月前

              When you say “hardware encoding”, are you talking about using your GPU for stuff like transcoding when streaming to devices?

              I ask because I actively disable all transcoding because I run jellyfin off my laptop and don’t wanna overwork it so to speak. I just assumed it was using the GPU.

              • MaggiWuerze@feddit.deEnglish
                32·
                9 个月前

                Yes, I use my server from outside my home quite often and don’t always have wifi fast enough for 4k movies, so I have plex break it down to my bandwidth. Works like a charm. Jellyfin just refuses to work.

                • whats_all_this_then@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  9 个月前

                  Ah, my use case right now is almost exclusively streaming stuff from my laptop to a phone with HEVC support over a local network so I can just turn transcoding off and be okay.

                  I did however have issues with my lack of transcoding (I turned it off myself, not Jellyfin’s fault. Pitchforks down, people) on a tablet without hardware HEVC support though so I may have to experiment with it soon.

                  FWIW I had to go in and turn the feature off but there’s also a good chance it was using CPU instead of GPU

      • roterabe@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        1·
        9 个月前

        No, thank you for making me get out of bed to set it up on my server.

        The mobile app is so much better. Plex works better on LG WebOS, but I’d say it’s on equal footing on Google TV.

        Tailscale also seemed to work perfectly fine for remote access.

  • Guido Mancipioni@lemmy.worldEnglish
    251·
    9 个月前

    Okay, thanks to this post I just discovered Jellyfin and though I haven’t even downloaded it yet because I’m on mobile, i tabbed back over here from reading their description page to thank you for this.

    I’ve been looking for other solutions but none of them seemed to be incredibly well supported or implemented

      • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
        291·
        9 个月前

        Yea, Plex requiring an internet connect just to stream locally tells me all I need to know about them.

        • Zachariah@lemmy.worldEnglish
          7·
          9 个月前

          If I understand correctly, it was originally implemented when they made it so you could use ssl to access your media without any configuration or cost: https://www.plex.tv/blog/its-not-easy-being-green-secure-communication-arrives/

          I also think you can watch locally without logging in, but, it’s a less than ideal way of doing it: https://www.plexopedia.com/plex-media-server/general/plex-no-internet/

          Unfortunately, the biggest red flag about Plex is that they now offer their own streaming media. That means they’re in bed with media companies which is at odds with the goals and needs of the original fans and users of Plex servers.

          When I saw the first slow steps Plex’s encruddification, I was relieved to find out Jellyfin exists. I wish it had more features, but it’s being actively developed and totally usable already. Also, I’m not a fan of the name, but that’s a stupid thing to complain about.

        • some_guy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          62·
          9 个月前

          I’m not sure why you think that’s the case. I use Plex entirely locally and have never had an issue when the internet was out. In fact my modem went kaput last year and I had a solid 2 days without internet connection. Plex didn’t even blink. The only thing I couldn’t access was Actor/Crew individual pages, as those don’t store metadata locally and are fetched on demand by the client.

          • Grunt4019@lemm.eeEnglish
            82·
            9 个月前

            I’m pretty sure that if you had not already been signed in, you would not have been able to use it. As the login page requires an internet connection.

            • some_guy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              42·
              9 个月前

              so your issue is not that you can’t access the server offline, it’s that you can’t log in while offline?

              i have never needed to log in locally since the initial setup. it can also broadcast as a DLNA server which would be trivial to access without authentication.

              you’re very opinionated for someone who is totally clueless on the subject.

      • LordKitsuna@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        9 个月前

        I’m still waiting for it to be up to par, I have jellyfin on the server and I check it maybe once a month with the latest version but it still fails miserably with my library.

        It’s a very clean high organized library managed by sonarr. All Files are in

        “series name (year) > Season xx > series name SxxExx (episode title)”

        format and yet it still just fails miserably at matching so much of my content (its a rather massive library) especially on anime. Half the time I have to manually match it, and I have to use the Japanese title in order to pull up the English metadata, because that makes sense.

        Playback also just… Fails for no reason on tons of my devices. It’s been getting better recently but until it’s on par with Plex I am not leaving sadly

        • Fades@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          9 个月前

          Plex makes it a lot easier for things like hardware encoding and sharing outside of network, but jellyfin needs some work to get there

        • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
          14·
          9 个月前

          If it fails on anime maybe someone (such as yourself) needs to do the leg work and set build a database for it to match against?

          • LordKitsuna@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            9 个月前

            Yeah no, i don’t have the time I’ve got my own shit to do. My Plex system is almost entirely automated. Ombi let’s me request a show with a single tap, sonarr finds it from my sources, sends that to transmission, then once it’s download imports it and puts symlinks with proper naming into the library folders. And then plex properly matches up the metadata.

          • some_guy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            21·
            9 个月前

            You know that product you don’t like and have a fine, working alternative for?

            You should do hundreds of hours of volunteer work to use the product you don’t like, that way it’s slightly less inconvenient.

            • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
              21·
              9 个月前

              The point stands: open source products are only good because people make them good.

              If you want to put your eggs in the closed sourced paid basket, by all means go ahead. Plex will still bite you, eventually, just like every other for profit business does.

                • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
                  21·
                  9 个月前

                  No, and thank fuck for that. I don’t think Plex would end up that bad.

                  I hope.

                  Edit: Also it isn’t “doomer” to say that for profit businesses almost always end up screwing their users over eventually. Usually it happens after the business is sold.

                  Plex has already deprecated the original Android app which had a “lifetime” payment.

  • TrickDacy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    191·
    9 个月前

    I finally got jellyfin working and I gotta say the UI is better than Plex in most ways, and it mostly works, but it is just a little glitchy at times. As one example, the auto play next episode feature has never worked in my browser. It will just stay stuck on “0 seconds until next episode starts”. That and for some reason I had trouble getting it setup on my streaming device on the same network… Local hostname wouldn’t work. Said it couldn’t find any servers locally on my network, so I had to use my IP address. So when (not if) that IP changes I’ll have to troubleshoot.

    Once they smooth out issues like that, I may ditch Plex even though I paid for it.

    • fruitSnackSupreme@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      9 个月前

      Yea I tried jellyfin, but I went back to Plex. Too many specific features on Plex that I got used to, that Jellyfin doesn’t have.

    • JoeKrogan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      9 个月前

      I’d encourage you to file a bug report for any issues you have. You are most likely not the only one and it will help all users of the software.

      • some_guy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        2·
        9 个月前

        You know what’s nice about Plex? Im not expected to be a free QA for them.

        I swear 2/3 of this thread is people saying “Jellyfin is so much better than Plex. You should switch! You just have to do 30 hours of maintenance and another 50 of tweaking and it works almost exactly like the software you already use!!”

    • silentdon@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      9 个月前

      it couldn’t find any servers locally on my network, so I had to use my IP address. So when (not if) that IP changes I’ll have to troubleshoot.

      One workaround that I can think of is to use ip reservation to give your devices the same ip address whenever they connect. You might find that setting under DHCP on your router. Or just use a static ip on the server.

      • TrickDacy@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        9 个月前

        I’ll try. Unfortunately my ISP showed up to connect my service and claimed I had to use their router so I’m a little stuck with whatever it can do

        • VerbTheNoun95@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          4·
          9 个月前

          I’d be very surprised if it can’t do DHCP. If it still can’t, you could always find a cheap router to use as an access point and have DHCP that way.

          • antipiratgruppen@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            2·
            9 个月前

            In that case, you can ask your ISP to set their router to bridge-mode, to disable most of its features, before connecting your own router to it.

    • yeehaw@lemmy.caEnglish
      4·
      9 个月前

      One other thing that sucks is lack of cast support on finamp and 90% of the time when I reopen the app it’s lost the progress of what I was listening to. Ui is worse than plexamp but a long shot imo.

    • Petter1@lemm.eeEnglish
      51·
      9 个月前

      Same

      Next, add jellyseerr to the setup for a even more convenient setup 😉

  • Varyk@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    172·
    9 个月前

    Haha I was so confused until I realized they meant “legally streaming anime”. Ri-dicks

      • Petter1@lemm.eeEnglish
        81·
        9 个月前

        I guess he’s talking about the Usenet, a way to get your warez via direct download from a Usenet provider. This makes it possible to pirate legally with blazing fast speed (like 5 to 10 min for 4k movies) and with the right Indexers, you can find any release existing in predb 😎

        • yeehaw@lemmy.caEnglish
          12·
          9 个月前

          I feel like I’ve always missed something with Usenet. Like I don’t fully understand it. I understand what newsgroups were back in the day I think - basically forums hosted by your ISP and people broke files into segments to spread them across posts or whatever, then you’d combine them and have a file. These would be super fast because it’s over your link to your ISP, but I don’t get how it’s still alive and well and not taken down.

          • Petter1@lemm.eeEnglish
            3·
            9 个月前

            Attentions oversimplified:

            The usenet is a network of servers in which each has file snippets that have a ID. All the servers sync their file snippet database so that all servers have all the snippets (some prune older snippets).

            You then make a subscription at one of of those server provider and are then allowed to download those snippets.

            Your downloader gets a map with the info which snippets to get and how to add them to get a file

            Those maps (NZBfiles) you get from indexers (preferably private ones), similar as it is with torrents.

            The usenet was created and used to fight censorship in 1980 only intended for text at first, but later it was discovered, that one can use this protocol for file sharing as well. It is hard to take down because of it’s decentralized design.

            It is like the the prehistoric blockchain, lol

          • Petter1@lemm.eeEnglish
            4·
            9 个月前

            Yes, downloading aka receiving copyright protected stuff is not illegal in my country, only the act of sharing aka uploading copyright protected stuff in order that it is available for other people, is illegal. You are even allowed to share copyright protected stuff with your “close circle of friends” And that is why we don’t need a vpn to download from the usenet

      • Squibbles@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        9 个月前

        Newsgroups go over an encrypted connection so no need to mess with VPNs and torrent boxes etc. subscribe to one or two nzb sites, a news group host and wire it up with somarr locally.

  • Paddzr@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    9 个月前

    I still have disney and amazon prime from somewhere, I sure as fuck didn’t pay for Disney. But i still just rather sonarr that shit.

    • Evrala@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      9 个月前

      I currently have a prime sub, but anything I watch on prime I just pirate instead. I’m on linux so torrenting gets me better video quality.

  • SeducingCamel@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    9 个月前

    Anyone know how to get subs to work properly on jellyfin, specifically on a Google TV client? About half of my content has nonnembedded subs with the sub file in its own folder, I can’t use subs for those shows, they just don’t appear