• toomanyjoints69@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Maybe those are problems with the ideology, but its not with the people who believe it. I’ve met a lot of people who have very incoherent beliefs. Nobody bullied them and so they absorbed the sane beliefs of the group.

    I really just don’t think exclusion or hostility are useful unless people are dangerous. A Nazi makes Jewish and gay members of a group scared. A tankie really doesn’t because 90% of the time they’re gay or trans.

    Then I haven’t even gotten to how a lot of people join extremist ideologies because they are lonely and need friends. So when you combine that with how small scale local activism is, kicking safe useful people out of a group is just abusing the socially inept.

    • Queen Izzy 🏳️‍⚧️@r196.club
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      I am a queer person, and I am scared of tankies because they support the creation of an authoritarian state which is fundamentally incompatible with the ideas queer liberation and self-determination.

      I’m all for communism. Every day is a new day for me to witness and live the horrors of capitalism. Hell, I got laid off a couple months ago and I may be facing homelessness soon. I could go on a tangent here but it’s very clear to me that we need a different system soon. But I don’t want to build a “fiscally leftists, socially conservative” society. I want it all left.

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        1 year ago

        It’s not just that, they support existing regimes that are known to be queerphobic. China is having its own trans panic right now, and their government is contributing to it, so when people support states like that it’s not just that they don’t support queer liberation, but it seems like they specifically want queer people gone entirely. It seems like they agree with fascists when it comes to queer people.

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        There is nothing about the core ideology of Marxism Leninism that is opposed to queer rights. Actually there are a lot of queer people in the community at large who are communist and findable on YouTube or Lemmy. I’m one of them.

        I’m not here to teach everything and I trust you know enough to be able to look up more as you wish. If you want an example of an ML nation that is pro queer look up the Cuba Family Code changes made recently. They’re among the most progressive in the world and help to guarente rights for trans people, lgbt, and more. Additionally China has a large trans healthcare clinic first of its kind recently opened in Beijing and a well known trans TV host. Vietnam also has a vibrant lgbt community and even in North Korea homosexuality and cross dressing to my research are not criminalized despite lacking public interest/support.

        The days of old are over and new communist nations can and are doing better to ditch reactionary tendencies especially around queer rights.