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      20 hours ago

      tetrio and osu are competitive games that don’t have kernel anticheat

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      Off the top of my head: Anything Valve (CS2, Dota 2, Deadlock, TF2), the entire Civilization series and Arma 3. Last time I played them Starcraft, Overwatch 2 and Valorant worked fine as well, though it has been a while and I don’t know if they’ve gone the way of Apex Legends since then.

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        2 days ago

        On windows at least, Arma 3 uses battleye which is absolutely kernel level anticheat. It may be different on a Linux install, but I wouldn’t expect it.

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          On windows at least, Arma 3 uses battleye which is absolutely kernel level anticheat. It may be different on a Linux install, but I wouldn’t expect it.

          You get to choose whether to use it or not.

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            Aah I see. And then each server chooses whether or not to require it. Makes a lot of sense for a game that has private servers, adds choice. Nice.

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              I guess people don’t know this anymore but uh…

              A server browser, where you can pick between official servers, and private, community servers… with their own mods or game modes or AC on or off…

              This was the norm for multiplayer fps games for like 20 to 30 years.

              Only fairly recently has everything become ‘streamlined’ by removing the server browser, just giving you access to various matchmaking queues, and oh AC is kernel level now also, even though it doesn’t fucking work, as a quick websearch can find you…

              Hacks and trainers that only work on Windows, that defeat all kinds of KnlAC, all the time.

              Nobody makes or sells game hack trainer suites that properly work on linux, ironically you yourself would have to hack the hack to even try.

              Or, you just basically plug your mouse/kb into a tiny raspberry pi type device that functionally middlemans your own pc, and the hacks run on that thing.

              The only AC that could possibly catch that is a rigorous and well implemented serverside AC…

              But netcode is too hard for modern devs, who just subcontract out as much work of all kinds as possible these days.

              Or I guess you can uh, mandate that in addition to full access to your kernel, you also have to consent to having 3 webcams in your gaming zone at all times, or a fucking manual, in person contraband check/gaming zone inspection.

              … and yes, if you get hired to dev a game and then fired after release, come on now, functionally, you are a contract worker, no matter whatever insane nonsense legal classification your job technically is.

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        Yes, but CS2 is cheater riddled and deadlock announced an AC that to my knowledge we don’t know much yet.

        Sc2 is also cheater riddled. Valorant has kernel AC.

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          There really aren’t that many cheaters in SC2. I’ve really only ran into 3 that I know of in 14 years. The funny thing is I still beat them too! Cheaters in SC2 are usually just bad at the game even with their cheats because they don’t understand the fundamentals, they can’t multitask, they can’t do a clean build, they can’t watch the minimap. Here’s the last one I hit a year ago with timestamped evidence: https://youtu.be/KNo1xsnRAXI?t