did they seed back tho ?
Meta did not immediately respond to Ars’ request for comment and has maintained throughout the litigation that AI training on LibGen was “fair use.”
When I upload a single half century old photo to Wikipedia, I have to fill out a relatively complicated form proving that it meets “fair use” standards. Internet Archive got legally fucked for allowing people to read their book scans without restriction for a while. And now these absolute cunts have the gall to defer to “fair use”! I really wonder if the same authors and publishing houses who sued IA will do anything about this.
See, Meta is rich and US laws don’t seem to apply to American oligarchs.
well the problem here is these laws have no teeth other than fines….
if you’re very rich, a fine is just a cover charge… and cheaper than doing it legally anyways.
And they probably never reseeded it afterwards either, the inconsiderate prats
This doesn’t mean that Meta denies using shadow libraries, its argument is that using such data to train its LLM models constitutes fair use under U.S. copyright law.
Oh wow, I’m very much looking forward to this argument… “We believe pirating the copyrighted commercial works of others en masse to develop our own commercial product constitutes fair use… China bad!”
Remember when Aaron Swartz tried to do something similar and received multiple life sentences
What Swartz did was not even close. What he did was absolutely fair use. He downloaded shit from JSTOR while at MIT which is fine because MIT allows students and employees to access JSTOR. There was no evidence that he shared anything.
His real crime is threatening profits of a corporation…
MIT is forever disgraced for their conduct and should be stripped of their tax exempt status.
And was intimidated so bad by the legal system he killed himself.
p sure he Epsteined himself.
No. Do not spread more conspiracy theories.
He was driven to take his own life. It was tragic and wrong and the truth is important. Don’t just throw some bullshit out there without evidence.
Yeah, it probably wasn’t murder, but considering that the US is quickly becoming a fascist oligarcny just like Russia is, and more and more American whistle blowers seem to be mysteriously dying… I wouldn’t be surprised to learn he was murdered. The oligarchs are evil af and any government that can aggressively fund a baby killing genocide is also evil enough to kill people for petty reasons
That was 12 years ago. 1 year into Obama’s second term. And don’t give me some “we were always a fascist state“ nonsense. You need evidence that he was murdered, even in the current climate. And 2013 was nothing like 2025.
“I wouldn’t be surprised“ is not enough to repeat that conspiracy. Certainly not to claim you are “pretty sure” he was killed by the powers that be. It is irresponsible of you to assert that with any confidence.
JFK, tupac, biggie, Malcolm X, king
To be fair, ‘I wouldn’t be surprised if…’ isn’t a testimony or claiming something happened, it’s voicing a level of disillusionment with something, nothing but opinion.
“I wouldn’t be surprised” means “I can still believe it despite no evidence/evidence to the contrary and so can you but I can’t say that explicitly.” The only acceptable answer is “we have no reason to believe that.”
“I wouldn’t be surprised” is a very squirrelly phrase. You get to act confident/skeptical (which is rarely frowned upon) but you leave a back door for you to say “I never said it was true.” We all know this.
The government is capable of a lot of things. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn anything because it has vast capabilities. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out Trump killed somebody once. None of that means I have any proof or grounds to assert anything.
Of course they didn’t seed. Fucking leeches.
They were leeches without the torrenting.
“Plaintiffs do not plead a single instance in which any part of any book was, in fact, downloaded by a third party from Meta via torrent, much less that Plaintiffs’ books were somehow distributed by Meta,” the company writes.
Another reason to hate Meta, now they’re scummy leechers even though they could afford the bandwidth to seed back
Capitalists aren’t in the business of sharing.
Parasite’s entire MO is to never give back.
Downloading and seeding are very legally different.
If they don’t respect copyright I don’t respect it either
We just need to wait until copyright regulations get killed… Right?
Right?
Right…?
Surely they would…
Copyright lobby begs to differ. 😂
My Mullvad account begs to differ. And it makes my banker happy!
And they should pay for every book they stole :)
I don’t usually like Meta, but here they used that data to produce open weights models available to the public. That sort of thing is what piracy is for so I support it.
That’s a lot of Far Side books.
