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Medical consensus on how to treat a specific mental illness is not relevant in this conversation about definitions.

Sure, I don’t want anyone to feel aggressed. But I think things get tricky when you start talking about topics like trans women in female sports, in female jails, etc

Isn’t it pretty normal for political party’s to signal their values during a period of cultural divide? Isn’t that sort of what political parties are for?

What’s wrong or dangerous about someone being both male and female

This is not relevant. You also can’t switch from male to female. It’s not physically possible. I’m not religious either. I think that a male can be as feminine as they want, play whatever role they want, etc… but nothing they do will make them female in my eyes. It goes against the definition of the word.

Functionally, trans acceptance is rejected by conservatives because it weakens patriarchal cis-heteronormative power structures that personally provides them with something. For those directly empowered by the hierarchy, the selfish benefits are obvious, but it provides other benefits that get some of the disadvantaged on board. It provides clear order and direction, telling people what to do with their life and how they can be successful at it. Most people prefer clear goals and obvious rules, things that more enlightened worldviews don’t provide. Live a happy and flourishing life? The fuck does that me

This reads like cultish woo woo.

You can be as gender non conforming as you want, I will have no problem with it. But don’t expect me to believe that you are the sex that you are not. I won’t call anyone out for it if they claim otherwise but they can’t change how I think deep down.

Hope this helps give some perspective.

Trans women are clearly both adults and humans, there’s no debate around that. It’s the female part that people get hung up on. It’s the assumption that gender is defined by sex, which isn’t how humans think about things on an intuitive level.

The “not being female” part is exactly what holds people up about calling them woman.

When you categorize someone as a woman in almost all circumstances, you use “female” to denote gender, not sex.

I don’t believe this is true at all. It would be weird to call women “females” in most circumstances. Your entire long comment pretty much serves to argue that female doesn’t mean what it actually means. It reads like a bunch of woo woo to me.

Sex is very important in human relationships. It’s how we procreate, which is the basis for the evolution of human sexuality. That much cannot be denied. Until very recently, there was no distinction between gender in sex. And don’t bring up some random old tribe having a third gender hundreds of years ago as proof, you can find an cultures who believed nearly anything and exceptions don’t prove the rule.

I believe that you can be a feminine man, dress how you want, and play whatever role you want, but that does not mean you are a female/woman. I would not try to challenge anyone to their face but don’t be surprised why I don’t truly believe that they are a woman.

I don’t think so. Social change is almost always controversial and heavily talked about.

I personally don’t really think racism/homophobia are that comparable. Being trans is something that requires other people to participate in. The former situations do not. In order to believe that transgender women are women, you need to believe that woman does not mean adult human female. That’s where a lot of the fundamental disagreements arise from.

The reason trans people are such a hotly debated topic is because republicans (and some leftists) view it as an assault on truth. They firmly believe that woman means adult human female and that males cannot be females. It’s not a surprise why there is so much controversy around it.