That’s insightful, thank you. It wasn’t hard to follow, I did have these exact same “adventures” but I guess I forgot about them after I figured out the ways to do things.

Personally these kinds of things are exciting for me, trying to understand the constraints etc, so maybe that’s also why I don’t remember struggling with learning Rust, since it wasn’t painful for me 😅 If someone has to learn by being forced to and not out of their own will, it’s probably a lot harder

Could you specify some kind of example where things were hard?

I see that my previous comment is not the common reality apparently.

I’m mainly a C# + js dev of a few years, and I would love to see what precisely other people here are having problems with, because I’ve had a completely different experience to most of the people replying.

I just don’t understand this. You get used to the syntax and borrow checker in a day or two. It’s a non-issue.

There were UX bugs though it’s been some time so I don’t remember all of them.

One of them was that when I pressed the windows key and searched for an app sometimes it just wouldn’t react at all, and I had to press it multiple times or use another way to launch an application.

Also the default file manager would often hang up for no apparent reason.

The desktop widgets would change their position every single time I logged in and would even disappear.

Edit: just remembered a hilarious one that took me a lot of time to figure out what was happening. If I had my second display turned on while logging in, the visual scale would always set itself to a ridiculous value like 1% or something and everything would be too small to do anything. I had to turn off the display every time I would log in. Before this I didn’t even know the PC could detect whether a display is turned on or off.

No matter what I set the scale to in display configurations, it would get fucked if I logged in with a second display turned on.

wish I could say for sure but it was like 2 years since I last used xfce.

I think there were some long-standing bugs that the devs said were not their problem

honestly I’d just want a DE that isn’t bugged and has all the basic functionalities. So far I couldn’t even find one.