Edit for those curious why I shared this: Today [email protected] was popping off with a lot of “No war but class war” memes and they were getting a lot of support from the people over there.

I tried to share this there as well only to find out that apparently I was banned over there last week and I still have a week left in my ban. (Never knew I was due to never being told I was banned?)

Only reason I even found out I was banned over there was due to checking the modlogs for lemmy.ml after I noticed my post was gaining no ground.

    • Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      Absolutely not

      What I’m saying with this meme is that a lot of people who scream, “No war but Class War,” and refuse to engage is social issues are allowing those who are fighting to strip rights away from people (culture war) to continue under some vague idea that if they cede that ground they can get unification to fight a Class War.

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        Okay so why are you trying to confuse an anti-war slogan with racism? The slogan is referring to actual war. As in the working class should fight the bourgeoisie and not themselves.

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          There’s no one here confusing it with racism except you.

          The slogan may have started as an anti-war slogan but it has gained a lot of popularity with people using it in reference to “class war not culture war”

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            I think you’re making up a person to get mad at.

            There’s no one here confusing it with racism except you.

            Can you please make this make sense?

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              You asked if I wanted a race war in your first comment

              Okay so why are you trying to confuse an anti-war slogan with racism?

              Was the opening line of your reply when I said that wasn’t the case

              You’re the only one bringing race into the conversation

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                Nooo… you brought race into the conversation with your original post when you said that ‘no war but class war’ interfered with social justice.

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                  Bringing race or intersectionality into a class debate with the intention of poisoning the well, IS propaganda from the ruling classes. The wealthy elite may look like the monopoly guy in many peoples heads, and that guy is real, don’t get me wrong (especially in the West), and he represents a huge amount of the wealth and power.

                  But the class struggle exists in parallel, class exists inside race, Indians are suffering under a class system that is being forced on them by other Indians.

                  If you don’t acknowledge that the oligarchy exists to exploit, you will never address the injustices inside a homogenous culture. If you don’t acknowledge that class alone is plenty of reason to dehuminize, you are not engaging with reality.

                  That all exists on the race and gender side too. We’re all in this together.